CRAZY 360 Backyard Build~

[Ford428CJ]

Been thinking about another CRAZY backyard build here.... How about a 360 this time! Might be a good winter project for me. About the 400HP range.....

  Somewhat on the cheap. Iron headed (ported out with CJ valves), 282S cam I have in my junk pile. Comp Roller Rockers with FPP end supports. Speed Pro H994P Hyper Pistons (the old 361FE Pistons). Milodon Gear Drive.  Molnar Technology Rods (I hope). Steel shim head gaskets. Windage tray. Jays intake adapter with the 351C Torquer intake, Topped with a Holley 800cfm VS annular boosters....

 Deck the block and balanced to rotating Assembly. Should turn about (hoping for a little less rpm) 6,200-6,400 RPMs. Good stout build!

[My427stang]

Wes, is that old EE-390 cam out of my 427 still kicking around?  That'd be a blast in a 360-ish cid engine with enough compression.

[jayb]

Sounds good, Wes, but a gear drive?  I'd run a timing chain, and save that gear drive for a stronger engine.  Or, do you just want to make some noise? 

[Ford428CJ]

Wes, is that old EE-390 cam out of my 427 still kicking around?  That'd be a blast in a 360-ish cid engine with enough compression.

It was Ross. Bad thing was... Times where tight and sold it for what you sold it to me for. Long story short.... Shipping lost it! I was out the money and the ole cam/lifters now! Truly sucks! Oh well... Wish I never got rid of it.

[Ford428CJ]

Sounds good, Wes, but a gear drive?  I'd run a timing chain, and save that gear drive for a stronger engine.  Or, do you just want to make some noise? 

 Well.... You know me Jay.... I use what I have around the shop. I love those old Milodon gear drives! I do have a chain set up from Summit Racing.... But you know. LOL I can always swap out later. If need to be. I like the  subtle noise.

[FElony]

Sounds cool, but does that power level really necessitate aftermarket rods? I would check over some stock 6.54's. With those, the 994's would be at zero deck on an uncut block, and you could just use regular .042" head gaskets.

Seems like all the talk about building a street-strip short stroke amounts to that, just talk. Would be nice to see somebody step up and do something unique for a change.

[Ford428CJ]

FElony, with the RPM's that I'm gonna turn with this thing.  I'm a little leery/concerned with those long skinny rods.

 No talk here... I am doing it! Might take a little bit of time and money at my end. I got that Crank from Brent and he is shipping it out to me. I also might be  inquiring  a set of 406 heads that are done up. With CJ valves in them. So we will see.

[57 lima bean]

Had always heard that a cast cam and a geardrive is something you wanted to stay away from.Any truth to that?

[Ford428CJ]

Remember... Milodon has a"Fixed" idler and not a floating idler. I run one in my 390 boat and no issues with it.

[Ford428CJ]

Here is a short video of it.

http://youtu.be/SOGO31rKhCY

[Ford428CJ]

Little Update on the CRAZY 360 backyard build.

Got a 352 crank coming! The rod journals are turned down to a 2.20". So I'll be able to use a long Chevy Rod. Like a 6.7 or 6.8 rod in it. Thanks to Ross Bullock for turning me on to it and Brent Lykins for selling it to me.

 Still pondering doing a set of 340 Dodge Pistons. Wrist pins are a .984 and would need a .990. So just .006" bigger in diameter. And maybe trim a little off the top of the piston.... Or do a set of customs. Not sure as of yet!

Also thanks to Charlie Radford! He is digging up some copper gaskets he has around his shop. Also a set of 406 heads that are done up! We'll take a look and see. Ported and polished with CJ valves stuff in them....

 So stay tuned here and I hope to have a solid game plan on this little mean 360. It will be a shocker I hope...

Forgot to add... A Comp Cams 282S with shell lifters, Milodon Gear drive, FPP end supports with Comp Cam roller rockers, Jays intake adapter with a Torquer intake and 800CFM Vs annular boosters.

[FElony]

Personally, I'd just like to see someone do a "street-strip" or mild bracket 352/360 on the cheap. I have never actually seen or heard of the skinny rods breaking, just a lot of conjecture and paranoia. I thought Brent was going to do something with that 352, but it got wacky in a hurry and disappeared down a rabbit hole. There was somebody else here a few months ago that was going to do a 361 piston build, and that probably fizzled, too.

6200 is no big deal. I've run 390's and 428's with stock original bottom ends there and past with zero issues. I've run 289/302's beyond 8 grand with same lower ends. All cast pistons. Wes, if you are going to spend money to trick the crank and rods, and use a Cleve intake, up the cam and shoot for 7500 rpm.

Grassroots. Making more from less. No wonder I feel like a pariah. I just ain't hip no more.

[Ford428CJ]

Bill who use to race 352's had his fair share of broken 352/360 rods. And the crank from Brent was a good deal. So no complaints from me. And a new set of rods are cheap! I won't have to worry about it now. I think that cam and the rest of the set up will spin closer to 6400rpms.

The crank is already done up for the BBC rods....

[blykins]

I simply didn't have the time to do what I was wanting to do.   Wes thinks his is crazy, but this one had a fully enclosed cam tunnel with internal braided drain hoses, bronze lifter bore bushings, 7.100" BBC rods, BBM heads, and a solid roller that was somewhere in the 260's/270's at .050".

I couldn't find anyone around that could bore the cam tunnel for me.  It needed about .015" taken out of it to size it properly and no one around here could do it and keep it straight and true.

The block is done and ready to assemble.  I offered it to Wes if he wants it.  I'll just knock the cam tunnel out of it and put regular bearings in it. 

Been getting busier and busier around here and unfortunately, the customers come first....hahaha

[Ford428CJ]

Brent, Crazy is one thing but your build was NUTZ!!! I can't afford all that cool stuff. I wish... I think it will be a fun build. No doubt.