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FE Technical Forum / Re: current fuel injection options?
« Last post by 66FAIRLANE on Today at 09:03:49 PM »
I have been using my Sniper since 2017 and really like it. Its been on two configurations of my 390 both with Performer RPMs. I do run an open spacer though (did with my carbs too). I also use a fixed orifice PCV. My first cam was a 110* split and made 6.5" of vacuum with carb and 7" with the Sniper. It operated fine (better than any carb I had on it) with no need to open loop the idle and off idle areas. I do not run ignition control as the cost is prohibitive and my optical trigger generates no EMI/RFI issues. Suggest you post your datalogs and config on the Holley EFI forums and get some opinions. Cant hurt.
 
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FE Technical Forum / Re: More valvetrain issues
« Last post by Jim Comet on Today at 08:42:49 PM »
As far as afr, I used my lambda meter. Good lambda on a pass for E85 would be 75 to 83. When we made a pass the readings were getting over 90 (very lean) and we lifted and coasted through the top end. Hopefully I have it figured out (more fuel pressure) or I will go back to VP110.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: More valvetrain issues
« Last post by Jim Comet on Today at 08:32:20 PM »
I used 1 piece .120 wall Smith Brothers push rods. Looking at the ARP studs on the driver's side there are some shiny spots on them signifying wiggle. The passenger side looks totally normal.  I think new studs and some additional clamping force should solve the issue. I hope!!!
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Private Classifieds / Re: 1964 thunderbird 390 $4500
« Last post by 390owner on Today at 07:27:12 PM »
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FE Technical Forum / Re: current fuel injection options?
« Last post by My427stang on Today at 01:27:28 PM »
Can't argue with your results, but I can say, having ignition control makes it significantly more adjustable and can make it better

I have heard of the dual plane issue, but haven't seen it.  That being said , I generally notch the dividers anyway with a dual plane, so it may be why.  However, assuming the IAC doesn't make a vacuum leak on only one bank, it shouldn't cause an issue, but I have heard it.

As far as LSA over 110, doesn't compute for me, every single EFI engine I do is over 110, (my Mustang is 110 LSA, 72 degrees overlap but also Mass Air Flow equipped) but LSA alone doesn't matter much, it's really how much overlap.  I could buy a typo that excessive overlap for tighter LSA could screw with idle due to unburned fuel in the exhaust, but not greater.  Would be interested in what you saw on that.

You make a valid point though, 50% of the builds I do are carbureted with standard ignition curves and they do great.  However, so does EFI, but once you start understanding the programming, you can do magical cheetah flips with timing and mixture in a variety of situations with EFI.  Do you NEED that?  Not necessarily, but when you do, it's real nice.

Don't get me wrong though, I agree on your experience, 1200 bucks worth of stuff, maybe 2000 when you add ignition, plus more high pressure fuel changes.  Someone really has to have a desire or need, if you don't, it's a lot of money
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Holley Sniper - IAC Rampdown and RPM
« Last post by My427stang on Today at 01:05:45 PM »
I have not tried it, but thinking this through

- If the throttle is returning and the IAC is at the hold point (parked), the "ramp" for when the IAC takes over is a function of time and start and stop points.  Should literally look like a ramp with RPM on the Y axis and Time on the X axis.
- The RPM points on that graph are RPM Above Idle to Start Ramp (high limit) and RPM Above Idle to Start Idle Control (low limit)
- The time or rate it drops is ramp decay, or how fast to get across those two points above (seconds)

If RPM Above Idle to start Idle control was too high, I think your IAC would have to unscrew really quickly then screw back in very quickly (it's a small motor that drives a vacuum leak)

If I misunderstood your question and you were asking if RPM Above Idle to Start Ramp was too high.  I would think it would make the ramp less steep and slow throttle return. 

I have not played with these values enough to know how much matters.  My hunch is you had something with the low start ramp causing the IAC to cycle back and forth into the ramp, but it is just a WAG

Without going out to the shed and looking I believe this is what I use
IAC Hold Position 10%
Ramp Decay Time 2s
RPM Above Idle to Start Ramp 1700rpm (I believe Holley recommend starting at 1000 above idle in the manual)
RPM Above Idle to Start Idle Control (150rpm)

These settings seem very logical to me, start the ramp 1000 above idle, end it at just above idle, which ends up to be very close to where the IAC is parked (10%) and it takes over

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FE Technical Forum / Re: More valvetrain issues
« Last post by fryedaddy on Today at 11:47:25 AM »
i broke a tip off one of my pushrods and the problem was my pushrods were a hair too long and it caused one of the cup ends of the pushrod to hit the rocker body.
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      For those whom might be interested (and in an attempt to get past the all-knowing participant), there were also examples of these reinforced blocks made and utilized as 352's at the 4.00" bore (390 & 410's @ 4.05" bore) which apparently aren't to common.   :-\

     Back several decades ago, Jim Dove came by our shop and in his wandering about came to a stack of FE blocks with the additional webbing and cross-bolt bosses which we had marked as being 352's, at which point he said he had never seen such a thing; and yet here was a stack of 'em?  He said "you've mismarked these" they're probably not the 4.00" bore of a 352, more than likely a 390 block with a 4.05" bore"; I said no, handed him the calipers, he measured them, and then he said: "well I be ......................,  I want to buy them, all of them!"   :o

     At this time Jim was heavy into his roundy-round effort, and had been utilizing the reinforced example 4.05" bore blocks, converting them to the cross-bolt caps, but having to sleeve them down to the 4.00" bore (cubic inch rule); he said obviously with these blocks (our 352's) he wouldn't need to incur the cost and labor associated in putting eight sleeves in each block.    8)

     Scott.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Holley Sniper - IAC Rampdown and RPM
« Last post by CV355 on Today at 06:59:01 AM »
IAC Hold is where the IAC parks once you give it throttle, if it's too high it won't idle down easily

Ramp Decay is the time it takes to relax from the hold point once the throttle returns

RPM above idle is where it starts to settle

RPM above idle to start idle control is when the IAC takes over actively, not the ramp down

I think your idle speed to start ramp was high, and you went higher. That will essentially ease the idle starting at that point

However, logs are your friend, going to need to get that working again to really figure it out

I did test the idle speed to start ramp parameter down to 500 to see the effect (1325 total).  It resulted in an angry, erratic idle of about 1400rpms, like the engine was loading up to launch.  So, I changed it in the other direction to 1250 (2075 total) and it settled down immediately as IAC dropped to 0%-2%.  My idle is set at 825 in neutral, about 7xx in gear.  Any higher and it diesels at shut down.  Any lower and it shakes the car apart and feels like it's going to stall out at red lights.   

I agree, I need to get that laptop fixed so I can datalog.  Microsoft has been awful lately with pointless and damaging updates (practically every phone call I get on for work has someone mentioning how recent updates wreaked havoc, but I digress...)

What would the negative effect be if the idle speed to start ramp is set far too high? 

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Private Classifieds / Re: 1964 thunderbird 390 $4500
« Last post by 390owner on Today at 05:38:40 AM »
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