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Title: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on October 22, 2022, 08:18:48 PM
My Fastback 427 Stroker, 482 ci, 4 speed.
Genesis Block, Scat Crank, BBM Heads. Factory Tunnelwedge intake.
Wide ratio Top Loader. 3.50 gears.
Street driven. Runs great. Anything above 2000 rpm.
It could be worse, I could restore the car and it would be
a Dynacorn body with a 289 and C4. Probably worth more though. ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/Xv3VkbkF/427.jpg)

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(https://i.postimg.cc/YC4VcH4L/side1.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: My427stang on October 23, 2022, 07:11:37 AM
Looks good!  Nice combo of parts
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Gregwill16 on October 23, 2022, 07:35:52 AM
Awesome build!
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on April 16, 2023, 07:20:47 PM
With the ProStars.

(https://i.postimg.cc/GtzSf990/Pro-Stars1.jpg)

Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Stangman on April 16, 2023, 07:33:53 PM
Nice good luck .i bet she scoots along just fine
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: machoneman on April 17, 2023, 08:24:11 AM
Nice wheels....and your car too!
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on April 19, 2023, 05:54:58 AM
At the Moose. ::)

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on April 19, 2023, 08:33:12 AM
At the moose awhile back.

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on May 27, 2023, 05:34:49 AM
The working side of the BBM heads.
I purchased the heads with no valves.
I purchased some REV valves and cut the seats on my First mill.
I did a 45* seat and a 60* and 30* relief.
I always wanted to do my own heads. ::)
They seem to work. Compared to the ED head, they look better I think. ;D

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on May 27, 2023, 06:00:26 AM
Fresh rubber. Mickey Thompson ST. Pretty much truck tires.
They work good in the rain and actually have a bit of grip.
I bought them to drive in the rain. I live in Nova Scotia. It's going to rain or snow.
I drive the car in both sometimes. :o

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: gdaddy01 on May 27, 2023, 10:06:47 AM
build em to drive
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on July 11, 2023, 04:27:26 PM
This has to be one of the most fun projects I've done.
The Loon e Bin is a lot of fun.

(https://i.postimg.cc/jdbYRMs0/IMG-20230709-090956432.jpg)
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on August 05, 2023, 06:24:17 PM
A couple of short videos of it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Rb1R_2wkHvk

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EJqhDJXqvuo
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: hbstang on August 09, 2023, 12:27:53 PM
well i am impressed.not many people drive they hot rods let alone with a camping trailer.time for some trailer burnouts!
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Heo on August 09, 2023, 12:35:01 PM
well i am impressed.not many people drive they hot rods let alone with a camping trailer.time for some trailer burnouts!

Anders Envall from Umeå Sweden had Worldrecord ET with a campingtrailer dont know if he still have it
something to go after? :D :D
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: mike7570 on August 09, 2023, 11:24:46 PM
well i am impressed.not many people drive they hot rods let alone with a camping trailer.time for some trailer burnouts!
We use to pull a ski boat behind my brothers ‘69 GT500. (Looked like Jay’s)  The 428 had a little work done to it and we could do a nice burnout while towing and even get rubber shifting into 2nd. Hit 100mph numerous times while towing across the desert to the river. Yeah we were pretty young and maybe a little reckless back then with the Shelby and a tunnel rammed jet boat. Fun times.
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on February 11, 2024, 07:21:58 PM
The Atlantic Nationals picture 2023.
When you drive into the show in the morning they take an action shot and put their logo on it. Then you can buy it.
I was 5 days on the road and off the road to get this picture. I can hardly wait for 2024 show.

(https://i.postimg.cc/L4vDvSTs/Moncton2023trailer1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on February 11, 2024, 07:26:06 PM
I have been looking for a time period for a Lakewood Bell.
This looks ok to me, but I don't have one to compare to.
I'm happy with it.

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on February 11, 2024, 07:48:59 PM
Sans mufflers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbgTW8R-s08
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 13, 2024, 10:44:50 AM
So the engine is coming out.
I'm changing the cam and rockers. Basically I will change everything to a stock adjustable.
I am going to use a 282s cam I have. It's in stock.
I am going to use Ansen 428 covers. They look really shinny.
Although they now show sold out. Mine are in the mail. :o
I am also changing the electric to the 3G alternator.
I have some C8 pulleys for the belts.
I need more power for the trailer.

https://www.ansenvalvecovers.com/collections/428-cobra-jet/products/ford-fe-428-cobra-jet-finned-styling-valve-covers-polished


Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 15, 2024, 12:52:14 PM
Badges. We have some new stinking badges.

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Stangman on March 15, 2024, 01:19:53 PM
Why are you doing this for better driveability.
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 15, 2024, 05:08:02 PM
Why are you doing this for better driveability.

After the rocker shaft broke and with no new shafts for Erson's I have to change rockers.
I also feel the solid roller lifter may be compromised also. There was some hammering and it busted the top off
the push rod. The cam and lifters have about 10,000 miles over 5 years.
A new solid roller setup would be very expensive for me these days. I've been retired/unemployed for some time now.
I have all the stuff to do the 282s so it fits my budget.
Overall I think with the smaller cam and a bigger alternator it will be better for towing the trailer.
I really like the challenge of the trailer.
It will still do excellent burnouts even with the trailer hooked up so I will be ok with that.
I'm hoping for a quick redo and be back on the highway as soon as possible. :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SqRfK1qm/IMG-20231016-090909414.jpg)
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 16, 2024, 04:56:35 AM
Mr. Brass. Time for a shine.
My last set of Victor Reinz 95158SG.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bJ2qjghg/IMG-20240315-205049941.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Stangman on March 16, 2024, 02:21:36 PM
Sounds good Harry
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 17, 2024, 02:11:34 PM
I drained the Top Loader transmission oil for the first time since I assembled it.
It is a big in big out wide ratio that I used the aftermarket input and output from the internet.
The case is a C5 and the tail is from a 390/428 Mustang/Fairlane. The cluster, gears and sliders are old Ford.
Pretty happy with that oil drain. It could have easily gone the other way. :o
Driveshaft looks great.


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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 20, 2024, 11:57:28 AM
Pulled Red Stripe. It feels like it's still full of oil. ::)

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 21, 2024, 04:34:23 PM
The new covers.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTDdHg96/IMG-20240321-160202823.jpg)
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 22, 2024, 04:37:51 PM
Extracted.

(https://i.postimg.cc/J4VC9dLh/IMG-20240322-162746246.jpg)
Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 23, 2024, 03:53:19 PM
Oil pan plug.
The clutch. McLeod 500 series, works good towing.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9MJYPPhq/IMG-20240323-101326691.jpg)
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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 25, 2024, 05:02:07 PM
Took the heads off.

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on March 29, 2024, 03:39:31 AM
When I built the heads I used a valve seal that I thought was good.
I think I selected the wrong seal.
I was getting some oil into the chamber and I know it was not the intake gasket
so I just kept driving until the rocker shaft broke.
What I think what was happening was the oil was filling up the head and the seal was sitting
in an oil bath. The engine runs for long periods at 3000 rpm and the oil drain back may be a tad slow.
I think the oil is wicking up the ridges of the valve guide between the steel cap of the seal.
I'm going to change the seal to a cup that is rubber viton so that it seals better at the ridges.

(https://i.postimg.cc/FRH686vv/IMG-20240327-084158413.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on April 03, 2024, 04:46:22 PM
The weather is getting better. Can work in the driveway. :)
I filled the driver head exhaust ports with a danger liquid.
They don't leak. I did not test the pass side. I have the valves out now.
I power washed the Tunnel Wedge. This is a Ford TW.
A while ago I lost the screws for it and made a set and then found them a couple of years ago. Pretty close.
I'm not sure about new Tunnel Wedges, but this one has a large T Stat hole.
I machined a C8 housing to fit it. I used the really crappy looking one. It looks more real. lol
These used to be kind of rare. Today they are in stock at Summit and BBM. ;D

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on April 10, 2024, 08:09:50 AM
Took the oil pump off.
Looks ok to me. It's a Melling M-57HV with a shim.
I'm putting a temp gauge and oil cooler in and will check some oil temps.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hPMGQkyH/IMG-20240410-094441602.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on April 11, 2024, 05:54:03 PM
I measured some things.
Pump shaft hole 0.4951
Pump gear shaft 0.4930
Driven gear outside 2.623
Pump body bore 2.629
Pump body bore depth 1.1135
Drive gear 1.100
Driven gear 1.100
I don't have a drawing to compare to, but standard machining clearances are close to these specs.
I'm not seeing any serious wear. I'm comfortable reusing it.

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on April 12, 2024, 07:14:09 AM
Under advice I did some more inspection.
The book shows that a 427 Mustang needs a rotor assembly end clearance
of 0.0011-0.0041. Looks like I'm good. :)

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on April 20, 2024, 08:37:09 AM
I've been cleaning and measuring a Lakewood Bellhousing.
The most significant measurement is the depth to the road.
The Lakewood is 1 3/16" closer to the road.
That's a lot when you don't have much and right in the middle of the crown.

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Title: Re: 1968 Fastback 427 Stroker
Post by: Tunnelwedge on April 21, 2024, 09:22:28 AM
With Broader and Speedmaster in the news, I know Speedmaster also sells cheap Top Loader parts.
A Speedmaster input is $89 on ebay and a DKT input is $179 from them.
That's a big jump, but I think the quality is there to justify the price difference.
I built Red Strip using DKT shaft's and parts.
Costs more but for years of hard use, well worth the investment.
DKT marks their shafts for id.
The light switch is holding on.
I'm going to adjust the rods a bit.

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