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Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« on: June 11, 2020, 12:29:11 PM »
I am restoring a 69 Fairlane formal roof Cobra clone. I am aware of a guy on Ebay in Canada selling repro fiberglass front fenders and hood and was wondering if anyone had any dealings with him? More interested in quality of parts, fit, etc? I'm not opposed to buying original sheet metal, but just having no luck finding anything good, or the owner thinks they are gold. I would appreciate any thoughts? Thank you, Brian

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2020, 04:10:47 PM »
What's the ebay sellers name?. I havent seen glass parts for  69 torino/fairlane on ebay. Thanks

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2020, 04:24:10 PM »
Unlimited used to have molds for that - if he picked them up from there, they are really old.  Like early 90s when they got rid of a bunch of stuff.

There used to be a mom/pop company in FL that made some fiberglass parts.  I bought the fiberglass bumper for my 67 Falcon from them - nice part.  I seem to remember they may have had 69 model parts.  They sold the business and retired.  I bought a hood from the new company for a 70 Mustang (figure 2000~2001 time frame).  The newcompany had sent the molds to China to save mfg costs.  The hood that came was about 1" small in width and length.  And paper thin.  So proceed with caution.

I passed on a 69 quite a while back because after looking, if the car doesn't have all good metal, trim, bumpers,etc - you're in for a hunt.  I have a 67 Falcon, no different.  Parts from a donor or no parts. 
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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2020, 06:53:48 PM »
I've seen some negative reviews regarding the quality of the Canadian parts. I have no direct experience, but what I read did put me off.

I have the 68/69 Crites bumpers and they're of the good quality (not show quality out of the box, but quite nice) I've always received from them. Crites sells a ram air 68/69 hood, but I've not looked closely at one in person.

I hope someone can point you to a good source. I'd like to eventually have doors too, if possible.
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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2020, 04:07:41 AM »
Amd auto parts is making a lot for them new bumpers floors ect add more every time i look.

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2020, 05:23:47 AM »
I appreciate all of the responses! I actually do have original hood and fenders for my car, and they are rustfree. But, they are badly beat and dented. The man hours to fix this stuff would be significant and the guy would have to be a great sculptor. I haven't found much of anything for sale close to me ( central Ohio area ) nor on east coast/west coast at this time. I am certainly not opposed to original sheet metal if the parts are decent and the price reasonable, but, I saw the fiberglass hood and fenders listed on Ebay and wanted to look into it more. The guy selling them on Ebay is "showcarsrob". Apparently sells other fiberglass parts for Mopar, Chevy, etc. Country of origin is shown as Canada and that is where parts would be shipped from. I am also aware of the Crites ram air hood. I would actually prefer the flat hood. I have a message into Crites if they have the ability to make a flat fiberglass hood? I don't need these parts tomorrow, I have time. Glad I started looking now.

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2020, 07:53:54 AM »
You might give Desert Valley Auto Parts a call. They have a large selection of older cars from the desert area so rust is not much of an issue. I bought a frame from them a long time ago for my 66 Galaxie and I was happy with it.
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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2020, 09:58:08 AM »
That name sounds familiar for some reason

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2020, 10:26:17 AM »
Check out obsolete+classic auto parts.com  they have more fairlane parts then most and are ok to deal with.If you have rust free fenders find old body shop  and have them fixed 68-69 parts are hard to find and cost big bucks i have a 69.

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2020, 04:55:08 PM »
I kinda doubt any of his web site is still valid - http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/fairlane.html

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2020, 07:05:42 AM »
My theory on these Ford unibody cars with the front doghouse/shocktower design like Fairlane/Torino/Mustang/Falcon is the steel fenders add some rigidity to the front.  Steel certainly would absorb crash energy better than fiberglass if the unfortunate event happened.

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2020, 08:53:13 AM »
My theory on these Ford unibody cars with the front doghouse/shocktower design like Fairlane/Torino/Mustang/Falcon is the steel fenders add some rigidity to the front.  Steel certainly would absorb crash energy better than fiberglass if the unfortunate event happened.

Perhaps they do but having jacked-up fenderless and then fendered Mustangs, the rigidity steel fenders offers is quite small in my opinion. Adding the Monte Carlo bar and other topside pieces that strengthen or tighten things up may also offer better crash protection. 
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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2020, 09:11:52 AM »
As of right now (10a.m. Eastern) the phone number listed on the link from Falcon67 is a good number. Its in Southern Ontario and went to voicemail. The outgoing message prompted me to list specific part I'm inquiring about. Maybe worth a phone call on a weekday.

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2020, 12:01:52 PM »
I appreciate all of the responses very much! I'll keep the guy in Canada in mind, but, I wouldn't want to do anything with those parts until I get at least a positive response from someone who has used them. I sent him a message about where the parts are actually made and he didn't respond. However, he did respond with a package deal on hood and fenders shipped for $1500. I would like to think that I could find a nice original hood and fenders for around a $1000, but I may be dreaming? I do have time on this, and I'm glad I started this hunt early. Surprisingly, I posted this same message on another site dedicated to my car. No response, nothing? I'll keep looking! Thanks Much! Brian

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2020, 08:36:57 AM »
I wanted to post an update on what I'm finding hood and fender wise for my car. Hope that these posts help someone else doing something similar to me.

I reached out to a guy in the northeast Ohio area selling Fairlane parts. I was quoted $200 each for front fenders needing repair work. He has a nice flat 69 hood for $1000 which seems a bit steep?

I am looking a bit at the Crites 68/69 Fairlane fiberglass ram air hood. Decent quality and they are local. Trying to wrap my brain around the ram air scoop part. I guess I'm a bigger fan of the clean flat hood and sleeper look of a stock 69 Fairlane Cobra. Trying to be open minded considering whats available.

There is a place in Florida called USbody. They offer a flat hood in fiberglass for 69 Fairlane. I need to check with them, but looks like it's a hood pin type hood ( four corner hood pins). I would prefer to use hinges, lighter tension Shelby hinge springs, and a latch in addition to factory hood pins.

I have tried getting some more info on the fiberglass hood and fenders made in Canada from Ebay vendor. No luck when I ask specific questions.

I guess if I had Barrett/Jackson pocket book, none of this would be a problem. Regular guy trying to get it done.

Thx, Brian

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2020, 10:25:51 AM »
I bought a fiberglass flat hood for my 78 Fairmont race car many years ago, from US Body Source, and I was very impressed with the quality of the hood. It was a lift off hood, and I never did use it, as I like having the stock hood hinges, plus when I weighed the stock steel hood to a factory hood, I didn`t think the 7 pounds was worth the effort. Keep in mind that the Fairmont was Fords first attempt at building lightweight production cars, so the factory hood on a Fairmont is constructed much lighter than an earlier car. (No inner panel, just a outer frame with a thin brace in the center, factory lightening holes and slots. ) The guy that I did sell the US Body hood to years ago, said it fit very well and required minimal work before painting. For anything other than a race car, I would rather spend a reasonable amount of $$$ on original Ford sheetmetal. Having owned 2 69 Fairlane Cobras , it seems that on the factory hoods, its fairly common to find a long crack in the raised peak that runs down the center of the hood. Both my hoods were cracked about 3" long, near the front of the hood. Since both my Cobras were R code cars, I wonder if the combination of having a large hole in the middle of the hood, combined with the aerodynamic lifting forces of the hood scoop at higher speeds possibly was a contributing factor over time, to the stresses on the hood. Or possibly the stamping process stretched the steel too thin. Considering 68-9 Fairlanes and Torinos are still not considered super valuable, $1000. for a stock flat hood does seem really steep.
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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2020, 12:12:53 PM »
I will give U S Body Source a second on their quality. I have a flat hood I bought for my 68 Mustang that is very nice- straight with a good fit. I have had friends who have bought from them for other makes and are satisfied customers. Over the years I have had a lot of fiberglass from a lot of suppliers and it all needs work some more than others but it is not a black art like some make it out to be. You may want to contact U S Body Source and see if they have more than what they list on their website. I believe they have several molds for parts not listed. Good luck!

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2020, 02:30:55 PM »
Why not take the Crites hood and remove the scope and glass in a flat hood?
Not that hard to do.
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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2020, 05:11:40 AM »
Appreciate the responses! I'll look further into U S body source. I am concerned that their hood is the lift off style which I need to confirm? I'll go to Crites this week and look at their hood as well. I'll give CTC auto ranch a call as well. Keep the guy in the Cleveland area as a last resort. I have a few options, we'll see if anything pans out? Thx much! Brian

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2020, 01:40:46 PM »
My hood is a US body Source.  It's 30 years old more or less.  It's had several scoops and various sized holes in  it over the years.  Great part.  I would also have their fenders, but in the early 90s they threw the molds out - no orders.  Yes, the hoods are pin on.  I use pins in the front and the hinges in the rear.  Go to Lowes or HD and get some 1x4 poplar.  Go to the hardware store and get some good two part epoxy and some fiberglass repair stuff.  Cut some appropriate sizes block from the poplar and glue/glass to the underside/back of the hood.  Mark using the hinges, then add some wood inserts with 5/16 internal thread to the poplar blocks under the hood.   Remove the hinge springs.  Up front use pins or possibly fab a hood latch. 

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My theory on these Ford unibody cars with the front doghouse/shocktower design like Fairlane/Torino/Mustang/Falcon is the steel fenders add some rigidity to the front.  Steel certainly would absorb crash energy better than fiberglass if the unfortunate event happened.

Fenders add nothing to the strength of the front end.  They are decoration only.  All the rigidity is in the splash panels, towers and lower cross member.  And leave Mustang out of that - their lower "cross member" is bolt in, which is why you see so many people adding the Monte Carlo braces and repairing cracked shock towers.  Fairlane/Falcon 66 up is WAY more rigid than a Mustang in the front. 

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2020, 02:47:35 PM »
Pictures of a 30 yr old US Body hood

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2020, 08:26:36 AM »
I appreciate all of the responses! I actually do have original hood and fenders for my car, and they are rustfree. But, they are badly beat and dented. The man hours to fix this stuff would be significant and the guy would have to be a great sculptor. I haven't found much of anything for sale close to me ( central Ohio area ) nor on east coast/west coast at this time. I am certainly not opposed to original sheet metal if the parts are decent and the price reasonable, but, I saw the fiberglass hood and fenders listed on Ebay and wanted to look into it more. The guy selling them on Ebay is "showcarsrob". Apparently sells other fiberglass parts for Mopar, Chevy, etc. Country of origin is shown as Canada and that is where parts would be shipped from. I am also aware of the Crites ram air hood. I would actually prefer the flat hood. I have a message into Crites if they have the ability to make a flat fiberglass hood? I don't need these parts tomorrow, I have time. Glad I started looking now.

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Re: Question on 69 Fairlane fiberglass hood/fenders?
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2020, 08:40:22 AM »
CTC doesn't really want to sell anything, IMHO, based on their pricing.  Probably worse now that they got featured on Junkyard Gold.